Exploring the Many Ways We Pray: Q&A with Mary Wagley Copp

Exploring the Many Ways We Pray: Q&A with Mary Wagley Copp 0

Jaliza Burwell of Charlesbridge in conversation with Mary Wagley Copp, author of Sometimes We Pray

In Sometimes We Pray, author Mary Wagley Copp invites readers to explore the many ways people pray—through movement, stillness, reflection, and community. The book celebrates the diversity of prayer practices around the world while highlighting the shared human longing for connection, hope, and belonging. Available as both a picture book and a board book, Sometimes We Pray encourages young readers to appreciate spirituality in many forms.

I spoke with Mary about the inspiration behind the book and why this topic feels especially meaningful for children today.

What inspired you to write a book exploring prayer across cultures and beliefs?
As an ELL teacher working with recently resettled newcomers from many countries and cultures, I tried to create space for them to share their stories—their traditions, daily lives, and beliefs—with one another. Those conversations often blossomed into questions about both the differences and the surprising similarities among the cultures in our classroom. I was amazed by the students’ curiosity and generosity of spirit. Despite their different backgrounds, they approached one another with openness and respect. Their willingness to listen, to ask, and to learn from each other became one of the most powerful lessons in the room. It was after one particular class—in which two women gathered their prayer rugs and went off to a corner to pray—that I tucked away the idea of writing about prayer for a young audience. It was really my students who inspired me!

How did your travels influence the story?
I have traveled extensively and lived abroad. Each time I interact with people from other cultures, I’m reminded that despite our different traditions, our deepest yearnings are remarkably alike. We want to be loved. We want to belong. We want our children to be safe. We strive for happiness. I also believe that in many forms of prayer there’s a shared longing—one of which is a desire to connect to something larger than ourselves and to care for one another while we are here. Travel and living abroad can certainly strengthen this perspective. But so can the simple act of getting to know someone whose story unfolds differently from our own. And I hope Sometimes We Pray inspires readers to do just that.

Your approach to writing this book makes it seem so welcoming to religious and nonreligious readers. Why was that important to you?
I appreciate the use of the terms religious and nonreligious rather than believers and nonbelievers. After all, we all believe in something. Many people who pray do not consider themselves religious. They may not attend services, belong to a formal faith community, believe in a supreme being, or observe traditional holidays. Yet they still trust in the power of prayer—in reflection, intention, connection, and/or hope. Accepting the value of prayer, within or outside of religion, acknowledges the wide and nuanced ways people make meaning in their lives.

How did you approach representing many cultures respectfully?
I interviewed people from many different backgrounds and faiths with varied ways of praying. I also asked readers to review the manuscript and share their thoughts. I’ve strived to do this with the utmost respect for the faiths represented. Because this is a picture book—with a necessarily limited word count—I couldn’t explore any one form of prayer in depth. In some ways, that constraint was helpful. It encouraged me to speak simply and spaciously, leaving room rather than filling every corner with explanation—something young readers would not have appreciated! I certainly didn’t capture every culture or spiritual tradition or all the ways people pray. But I hope the book—both text and illustrations—hold enough diversity and recognition for readers to feel both seen and curious. My deepest hope is that Sometimes We Pray is a springboard for conversation, inviting readers to share their own practices, questions, and stories about prayer.

I think one of the most beautiful parts of this book is that it shows prayer as something that connects people, rather than something that separates them. Was that an important element for you to work in?
So often, we see prayer as connected to religion. And so often, we see religious differences as lines that divide us. Yes, we are different. We eat different foods. We raise our children in different ways. We dress, worship, celebrate, and mourn in our own traditions. But beneath those visible differences runs something deeper—something shared—something I believe is often embodied in our prayers. We all long to belong. We all hope for love. We all wish for happiness and good health. Those shared longings are our common ground, the threads of our shared humanity. When we choose to look for that common ground, we see beyond what divides us. And in that realm, we discover not just who others are but who we can be.

In what settings do you hope this book will be shared—at home, in classrooms, or as part of special celebrations?
Everywhere! All the time! I think Sometimes We Pray is appropriate in all venues. It is meant to pique curiosity and to invite inquiry.

At Charlesbridge, we were so excited to release this book simultaneously as a picture book and a board book. It makes the story so unique. Are you excited to be reaching a wider audience? Was this choice important to you?
I love that Sometimes We Pray is a picture book and a board book. It was not my decision, though! Board books are so important for our youngest children and when we introduce words, concepts, and pictures early on, we can lay an important foundation for literacy and learning.

This book feels so timely. What do you hope young readers will take away from this story?
Today we have such deep divisions at so many levels: globally, nationally, and within our own communities. And the tone is divisive—often unkind. I believe the earlier we begin to listen, to try to understand, to honor differences and our shared underpinnings, the greater chance we have for more peace in this world.

 

 

Mary Wagley Copp is the author of Yoshi's Big Swim and Wherever I Go. She loved exploring the world with her parents and studying Spanish in Guadalajara, Mexico; visiting the symbol of ancient Greece, the Parthenon; and imagining how the Incans built Machu Picchu in Peru. When she is not reading and writing stories, she’s an ELL teacher working with recently resettled newcomers, and she recently traveled to Ethiopia and beyond.

 

 

 

 


Sometimes We Pray

Available in both hardcover and board book format.



Discover the diverse ways people around the world pray—through movement, stillness, and connection. A beautiful celebration of spirituality and human expression.

A culturally rich celebration of prayer practices worldwide, fostering diversity and connection. This timely book encourages children to appreciate spirituality in all forms.

People have prayed for centuries, and it is a significant component of most, if not all, religions. It is also a powerful part of people’s lives who are not part of a religion. Many people believe that paying attention to the world around them, and to their relationship with it, is a form of prayer.

Prayer in its myriad forms conveys a relationship and a communication with something mysterious, something within or something beyond ourselves.
Empathy Through Story: A Q&A with Miriam Chernick on The Zuzu Secret

Empathy Through Story: A Q&A with Miriam Chernick on The Zuzu Secret 0

To close out Disability Pride Month, we're honored to share this heartfelt Q&A with author Miriam Chernik, whose new middle grade novel The Zuzu Secret is inspired by her real-life experiences growing up with a brother who has Prader-Willi Syndrome. In this conversation, Miriam reflects on the power of storytelling, the importance of representation, and what she hopes readers will take away.

 

The Zuzu Secret features a main character with Prader-Willi syndrome. Why was it important to you to write a story that includes this specific disability?
 
I grew up with an older brother, Daniel, who was born with PWS, and I’ve been helping care for him ever since. During the COVID lockdown, Daniel came to live with me and my family for over fifteen months, so he and I spent many hours walking, talking, and reminiscing. Caring for a sibling in the role of parent was new and really hard, so I started to journal some of our conversations as a kind of coping mechanism. I wrote about what I was experiencing in real time and later, with Daniel’s unique speech pattern stuck in my head, my journaling became the basis of this story told in alternating voices.
 
What do you hope young readers—especially those with disabilities or who have siblings with disabilities—take away from this story?
 
For young readers who are unfamiliar with this disease or who have not grown up in this type of family, The Zuzu Secret is what we call a “window story,” as if the reader is looking through a window into a different world. For kids or siblings of kids with PWS or another disabling disease, this will be more of a “mirror story,” where they see a part of themselves as they read. In either case, I hope everyone who picks up this book will enjoy it for the story and characters but also come away with more empathy for their fellow humans. 

Do you have any favorite books—past or present—that portray disability with care and authenticity?
 
The Trumpet of the Swan by E.B. White is about a boy, Sam, who helps Louis, a swan who was born unable to honk, learn to “speak” by using a trumpet. As a child, I loved this book for two reasons. First, it’s about animals—and I love animals! Second, it’s a story about disability, about Louis struggling because he cannot communicate with his flock. I sympathized with this swan’s difficult predicament and understood Sam’s wanting to help him. 
 
More recently, I read The House in the Cerulean Sea by T.J. Klune, a masterfully written story about abilities, disabilities, and the “othering” that is so prevalent in our society. I read this book straight through, distraught over the treatment of some of the characters. And yet, in the end, Klune left me feeling hopeful.
 
What do you wish more people understood about Prader-Willi syndrome and similar rare conditions?
 
When my brother Daniel was growing up in the 1960’s and 70’s, disabled people were sent away to institutions or shuttered at home. (Our family’s situation was exceptional in that way. My brother lived at home and participated in everything the family did until he was an adult). Thanks to the ADA (Americans With Disabilities Act), which was signed into law in 1990, people with disabilities have many more rights. Today there are more services that enable people with physical and/or intellectual disabilities to be out in the world. Still, for some, seeing people with disabilities in public places—such as at the grocery store—is off-putting. They turn away. They tell children, “don’t stare.” But kids are curious. They learn by looking. So, as long as it’s not with contempt, I believe it’s okay to look at a disabled person—and acknowledge them. How? With a nod, a smile, a wave, or even a “hello,” just like you might acknowledge someone else. Every human deserves to be recognized.  
 
What has the response been like from families or readers who share similar lived experiences?
The response so far has been overwhelmingly positive and heartfelt. After reading The Zuzu Secret, people in PWS families have been eager to share their own unique stories. Many have said they bought the book for friends and family to better understand this difficult disease. One mom told me, “When someone asks me what it’s like to live in a family with someone with this type of disability, I don’t have to answer anymore. I just hand them the book and say, ‘read this’.”

 

The Zuzu Secret is a story of honesty, empathy, and the bonds that shape us. We’re grateful to Miriam for sharing her experiences and shedding light on the realities—and the love—within families touched by disability. As Disability Pride Month comes to a close, may stories like this continue to open hearts and minds all year long.

More Resources for The Zuzu Secret:
Reader Group Guide
The Zuzu Secret Webpage